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ACE
06-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Im curious If you were offered a Glass Filled Natural Ruby For a Quater of the Price of the Normally Heated Natural Ruby would you Object to it or buy it ?

Feydakin
06-07-2005, 10:11 AM
It would depend on why I was buying the stone..

I personally have no issues with treated stones as long as the treatment is disclosed.. It allows people to purchase stones that would normally be out of their reach.. Not every one can afford a flawless blood red ruby, nor should they have to is other options are availble..

Gregory Diamond
06-07-2005, 10:33 AM
"I love you so much I bought you the cheapest diamond I could find"


:D

ACE
06-07-2005, 09:11 PM
You Know I tend to agree w you Most people Cant Afford Perfect Rubies - Let em eat Cake :)

Feydakin
06-08-2005, 09:46 AM
Actually Greg,

At my house it's more like, "I love you so much I won't complaign about you buying another horse.. By The Way, when was the last time you wore your ring??" :D

GGJoe
06-08-2005, 02:57 PM
Glass filling isn't anything new from what I understand. I heard it's new regarding ruby from Sri Lanka.

Seemingly, certain enhancements are considered "unacceptable" while others are acceptable. Go figure! To tell you the truth, I see a lot of the "unacceptable" argument coming from the bitchers and moaners in, and dealing with, the industry.

From my point of view, faceting a gemstone is a form of enhancement as well! They don't come out of the ground faceted ya know.

It's entertaining to see how *some* see enhancements as unacceptable, when it's the enhanced stones like aquamarine, sapphire, tanzanite, and very many other colored stones are actually worth MORE after enhancement!!!!!

I've seen the one's making enhancement up to be a bad thing, as the ones who are relying on complaining about the others as for a business plan. As if the "competitor" has been able to keep track of their stone from mine to ring and can guarantee it hasn't been enhanced. Some enhancements are UNDETECTABLE!

Enhancement has been around for centuries. I do see how some enhancements are used to deceive though. Disclosure is important in these cases, but I have to play devil's advocate, open a can of worms and ask, "when is enhancement considered as deceit instead of making the gemstone worth more?"

When does a green beryl become emerald? When does heating zoisite not make it tanzanite? When does bleaching a pearl become deceitful? Why is heated aquamarine (which omits the greenish modifier) more expensive than the greenish blue aquamarine (which most likely hasn't been heated)?

Opinions, opinions, opinions. When does that car seat become red in a new Corvette? Since the cow wasn't originally red, should we start deducting from the value on that too? :rolleyes:

Definately a good topic for discussion. Since there are so many undetectable enhancements, how can one know if it's been enhanced to begin with?

ggjoe

saffles
06-28-2005, 06:19 PM
Im curious If you were offered a Glass Filled Natural Ruby For a Quater of the Price of the Normally Heated Natural Ruby would you Object to it or buy it ?

Or what about this... I bought a new kind of ruby doublet (sapphires also) where they took natural ruby and mated it to "created" ruby through a chemical bonding process. Even though it was extremely difficult to tell where it was joined, I bezel set it in a men's ring (it was about 6 carats in size) and wear it. I have taken it to several jewelry stores and they are amazed with the "stone". Surface tests reveal a "natural" ruby. A very good GG should be able to tell something was different, but even they are not always sure.

I gave some to some trusted jeweler friends and asked them to abuse them. One put it in the ultrasonic for 24 hours and then dropped it into the heater for 24 hours... never seperated. They wanted to buy several.

Now, would you buy it/sell it at $20 a carat? I always revealed what they were... :)